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cos ([personal profile] cos) wrote2011-06-10 12:38 pm

Starting with a T

Do any of you notice, when typing an email or a blog post or something like that, that you're tending to start so many sentences with a "T", you consciously try to think of non-T words to start your sentences with? Just for some balance and variety. Or is it just me?

Edit: I thought of also mentioning that the #2 letter I have this issue with is "I", but since T is the one that comes up more for me and that I try to avoid first, I left "I" out. Now I see that I should've mentioned it. More of you have this issue with "I" than with "T".

[identity profile] badseed1980.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. I don't even find that I'm starting a lot of sentences with a T.

[identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I only notice when I'm starting an overabundances of sentences with "I".
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[personal profile] coraline 2011-06-10 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

[identity profile] catness.livejournal.com 2011-06-12 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
FWIW, I don't have this issue with the *letter* I, but the *subject* I, in case that wasn't clear. The letters themselves are functionally nil for me, as long as the flow is okay. ;)

[identity profile] spookiepookie.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here.

[identity profile] elusiveat.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's just you.

[identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com 2011-06-13 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I notice it when I start things with the same word itself, which is often "I" but sometimes is "The" or even "We" or in the case of a resume "Responsibilities include:"

It's more repetitive words for me, than repetitive letters from different words.

[identity profile] zaph.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an interesting idea. Theoretically, I could notice sometimes, I just don't know that I have until you mentioned it. Though I think it depends on the content, as well. Ten times out of twelve, I probably wouldn't notice at all. Technically, that's the same as five times out of six, but ... you know. Then again, I guess it only really matters if you seek that kind of balance. There probably aren't that many people who do.

That is all.

[identity profile] barking-iguana.livejournal.com 2011-06-10 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm an auditory person. Whatever I write, I hear myself speaking, whether I want to or not. If it would sound funny spoken in my cadence, I edit it before the sentence is even formed. Generally, many sentences starting with the same consonant wouldn't trigger a perceived need to edit, but depending on the specifics, it might.

[identity profile] keturn.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. I notice I start a great many sentences with "So", and I sometimes have to cull my "and" and "but"s, but that's one tick I haven't been bothered by yet.

[identity profile] zombie-dog.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I avoid starting sentences with the word "A" because I don't like the way it looks :)

[identity profile] diatom.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely have this issue with I. Even in thank you notes to people who attended a dance class I organized: I, I, I. I've started using the royal "we" just to help myself out. Now I'm addicted to imperative sentences: come on out! we hope to see you on 6/19! Just Do It! <-- try to avoid this!

T? Why are you starting so many sentences with this? Makes me wonder if you're drifting into the passive tense too often. There are, There is, The thing is, That becomes obvious if... ;p

Or maybe you talk about Tyrannosaurs a lot? And...tabletops, and tennis! and troubadours.

[identity profile] diatom.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
if you're saying "Theoretically.." at the beginning of all those sentences, that is really bad and gross.

Oh, let me clarify myself!

[identity profile] diatom.livejournal.com 2011-06-11 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Forgive me. I should have written "passive voice". "There is" is a very passive voice phrase, IMO: one removes the action-maker, attributing whatever is happening to some ethereal force. It's passive because you have removed the subject, the maker / force that is performing the action of the sentence.

I guess the problem with these phrases is really too much use of the verb "to be", at the end of the day. From where I come from, people say "passive tense" when one uses too much "is" / "are" / "has been". I guess the verb "to be" is passive, in pretty much all its forms. Maybe it should be known as the "passive verb"! But I'm pretty sure the people that said "passive tense" to me and around me were decent people, writers and teachers, and we understood each other. Maybe that was a regional thing...

Hope that clears things up for you. I would not agree that "there is" or "there are" are at all active, or counterexamples. They're passive because of non-attribution, which seems very simple and clear to me.

"There is a big cat in the road." v. "Henry dumped a big cat in the road."

"To", or "this" or "that", I know less about. But repeatedly using "to" at the start of a sentence seems sketchy. I'd call it "making your speech/writing patterns 'too theoretical'", but that's just my instinctive take on it. Maybe you're trying so hard to prove your point, in your writing, that you're getting bogged down in literary baggage, or in being officious.

I really don't know. Good luck!
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Re: Oh, let me clarify myself!

[personal profile] lindseykuper 2011-06-15 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
To add to what [livejournal.com profile] cos said (which is all true), a passive-voice version of "Henry dumped a big cat in the road" would be "A big cat was dumped in the road", or "A big cat was dumped in the road by Henry".

The passive voice comes up in technical writing pretty often. Here's an example I just saw:

The 'call' form maintains the call stack in the term syntax. A function call is rewritten with this form, and...

The "is rewritten with this form" part is the passive part. To change this sentence to active voice, I'd need to find out whatever caused the rewrite to happen. If that thing was the frobnicator widget, then I'd write:

The 'call' form maintains the call stack in the term syntax: The frobnicator widget rewrites a function call with this form, and...

But I might not want to do that. If the point of this sentence is merely to convey that a rewrite happens, I wouldn't want the reader to get bogged down in the details of what does the rewrite. In that case, I would do well to leave the passive voice in there.

I find that in technical writing, the main problem with the passive voice is that it makes it too easy to write about things happening without actually knowing what caused each thing to happen. So, as a writer, going through the mental exercise of trying to rearrange one's passive-voice sentences to use the active voice can help tighten up one's thinking a little, even if one actually ends up leaving the sentences in the passive voice because they work better that way.