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Do any of you notice, when typing an email or a blog post or something like that, that you're tending to start so many sentences with a "T", you consciously try to think of non-T words to start your sentences with? Just for some balance and variety. Or is it just me?

Edit: I thought of also mentioning that the #2 letter I have this issue with is "I", but since T is the one that comes up more for me and that I try to avoid first, I left "I" out. Now I see that I should've mentioned it. More of you have this issue with "I" than with "T".
Date: 2011-06-11 18:06 (UTC)

Oh, let me clarify myself!

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Forgive me. I should have written "passive voice". "There is" is a very passive voice phrase, IMO: one removes the action-maker, attributing whatever is happening to some ethereal force. It's passive because you have removed the subject, the maker / force that is performing the action of the sentence.

I guess the problem with these phrases is really too much use of the verb "to be", at the end of the day. From where I come from, people say "passive tense" when one uses too much "is" / "are" / "has been". I guess the verb "to be" is passive, in pretty much all its forms. Maybe it should be known as the "passive verb"! But I'm pretty sure the people that said "passive tense" to me and around me were decent people, writers and teachers, and we understood each other. Maybe that was a regional thing...

Hope that clears things up for you. I would not agree that "there is" or "there are" are at all active, or counterexamples. They're passive because of non-attribution, which seems very simple and clear to me.

"There is a big cat in the road." v. "Henry dumped a big cat in the road."

"To", or "this" or "that", I know less about. But repeatedly using "to" at the start of a sentence seems sketchy. I'd call it "making your speech/writing patterns 'too theoretical'", but that's just my instinctive take on it. Maybe you're trying so hard to prove your point, in your writing, that you're getting bogged down in literary baggage, or in being officious.

I really don't know. Good luck!
Date: 2011-06-15 07:06 (UTC)

Re: Oh, let me clarify myself!

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To add to what [livejournal.com profile] cos said (which is all true), a passive-voice version of "Henry dumped a big cat in the road" would be "A big cat was dumped in the road", or "A big cat was dumped in the road by Henry".

The passive voice comes up in technical writing pretty often. Here's an example I just saw:

The 'call' form maintains the call stack in the term syntax. A function call is rewritten with this form, and...

The "is rewritten with this form" part is the passive part. To change this sentence to active voice, I'd need to find out whatever caused the rewrite to happen. If that thing was the frobnicator widget, then I'd write:

The 'call' form maintains the call stack in the term syntax: The frobnicator widget rewrites a function call with this form, and...

But I might not want to do that. If the point of this sentence is merely to convey that a rewrite happens, I wouldn't want the reader to get bogged down in the details of what does the rewrite. In that case, I would do well to leave the passive voice in there.

I find that in technical writing, the main problem with the passive voice is that it makes it too easy to write about things happening without actually knowing what caused each thing to happen. So, as a writer, going through the mental exercise of trying to rearrange one's passive-voice sentences to use the active voice can help tighten up one's thinking a little, even if one actually ends up leaving the sentences in the passive voice because they work better that way.

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