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Taking a taxi here is very cheap, so it's closer to being a form of public transit than I'm used to. Today a ~25min ride on mostly highways (fast road swith occasional traffic lights) cost the equivalent of about $15. However, they don't do street addresses - you have to tell them the name of a landmark or place they know, like a major intersection or well known store or church or station.

Today we went out to the main street near our hotel and caught a cab, and I told the driver the name of the place we wanted to go. He thought for a moment and then shook his hand no no no. I said the name again, and he refused again, so we gave up, puzzled. Immediately behind him a second taxi had stopped, so I walked over to that one and said the name of the same place to the driver. He thought for a moment, said yes, and we got in.

When we got to the place, just where it was on my map, I started to give him money but then he saw something at the entry booth that I didn't catch (probably a sign I couldn't understand?) and motioned us to wait a moment while he went up and talked to the person there. He determined the thing we wanted to see had been moved to a different location, so we got back in and he took us to the new location - which turned out to be much further way.

It was a good trip, to Jeju Stone Park as it turned out, but cabs are kinda different here.


Edit: We also had a weird experience with the bus the next morning. To get to Manjanggul lava tube, Google suggested taking the 720 bus from Jeju to a place in the vicinity of Manjanggul where we could change for another bus that would take us there. We went to the 720 stop and got there a couple of minutes after the schedule said one should be there, so we thought we'd just missed it and sat down. While we were talking a bus came by, and just as we got up to look at it it pulled away and we saw it was the 720. Oh, many bus stop shelters here are built with the wall facing the road, so from where we were sitting down we didn't have a good view of the approaching bus.

But the weird thing was the next bus, the 720 we thought we'd have to wait for that we did have to wait for after all. I got on and put 1,000won in, which was what we'd been charged for every bus ride so far. As I started to walk past, the driver said something aggressive-sounding in Korean. He didn't speak any English at all and kept repeating the same thing, so at first I thought it was a higher fare and tried to offer him more money, but he wouldn't take it. Then I thought maybe he was asking where we were going, so I said the first thing that came to mind, which was "manjanggul". As soon as I said that he shook his hand in a "no" gesture" and made the money thing return 1,000won to me and pointed me off the bus.

We gave up on taking the 720 and caught a taxi, even though it as a long way.

I wonder if I'd remembered off the top of my head the name of the stop where we were going to change buses, and said that, maybe he'd have let us board his bus?
Date: 2013-10-14 18:00 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/
Are you finding that all the taxis are medium-size cars with the boot mostly full of an LPG tank because they have all had cheap'n'cheerful LPG conversions?
We found that in Seoul, so you couldn't fit more than about 1.5 suitcases in the boot. The larger luxury taxies could hold... about two suitcases. Still Not Very Useful. So we ended up with luggage on the back or front seat each time.
Date: 2013-10-14 22:55 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
They don't take addresses because addressing in Korea, like Japan, is a useless nightmare.
Date: 2013-10-15 03:22 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
This.

The amusing thing is that some Koreans claim they invented the existing "system". (It seems more likely that they inherited it from the Japanese colonialists.)

But change is theoretically coming. Wikipedia claims they're phasing out the old system by the end of this year.

I'll believe that when I see it.
Date: 2013-10-15 14:35 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/
Even if I had invented the fractal clusterfuck that is Japanese street addressing, I wouldn't be advertising the fact too loudly. It would be one of the vague lines on my CV, "Japanese local geodata architecture project".

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