May. 11th, 2004 13:50
what does it mean?
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This weekend, I saw a bumper sticker that said,
Straight, White, English-Speaking
Proud American
For a moment, I was offended ... then I started thinking of several different possible intentions, meanings, and contexts for this slogan. After a bit of confusion, I settled on curiosity. What does it mean? What did the people who sold it intend for it to convey, and what did the person who put it on their car intend to say by it? I can think of several different possibilities or nuances, and maybe there are more.
So tell me, what do you read in this bumper sticker slogan? And if, like me, you see several possibilities, which one came first, before you thought about it?
This weekend, I saw a bumper sticker that said,
Proud American
For a moment, I was offended ... then I started thinking of several different possible intentions, meanings, and contexts for this slogan. After a bit of confusion, I settled on curiosity. What does it mean? What did the people who sold it intend for it to convey, and what did the person who put it on their car intend to say by it? I can think of several different possibilities or nuances, and maybe there are more.
So tell me, what do you read in this bumper sticker slogan? And if, like me, you see several possibilities, which one came first, before you thought about it?
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hmm...i thought the sticker was amusing, once my initial reaction of "huh?" was over. reason being, my mom has this button that says "i'm straight but not narrow". i have issues with things like that, because it sounds like those people who feel the need to point out their straightness while adamantly pointing out their ability to "tolerate" or "accept" those of us who aren't. in a perfect world, i would imagine that differences would be celebrated as variety but completely ignored as things that stick out and need to be "tolerated"
this sticker, to me, is thumbing its nose at that, saying "i am this, and i don't really feel the need to envelope you all in my tolerant arms by saying that i am this but i don't mind if you're not".
(i don't think i have much of a problem with what the sticker says, since i do believe that it was written in satire (maybe bigoted, but maybe not, it's the kind of phrase i would use with other words if i got sick enough of all these "proud to be X" things), but i *would* be somewhat wary around a person sporting it.)
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that's what I think. those people are creepy. they are all about showing their "white pride". if it's not a supremacist gruop member, it's a really bad joke...
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As a simple descriptive, it basically fits me. However, I can't imagine putting that (or plenty of other true statements about myself that I am not ashamed of) on a bumper sticker on my car.
I could believe that someone might make or display that bumper sticker in an ironic fashion... but I sadly doubt that this was the case.
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The words by themself just make me go "huh?" While the anti-diversity interpretation certainly occurred to me, I'm not at all certain of it. (Certainly as an individual statement. Think of who might have printed a large number of such bumper stickers for sale, it somehow becomes more likely.) I don't see anything wrong with a majority group being proud... until it veers over into exclusion, which this, by itself, does not.
If I saw it, I have to admit I'd look for context. Other bumper stickers? (For instance, were it near "Marriage = 1 Man + 1 Woman" that would definately shade my reading.) Other decorations? Typeface? Colors? What kind of car? While these things might make one interpretation more likely than another, I guess I don't tend to assume I know what people mean by such statements.
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Then came the dual showing that it's okay to be part of the more normal group and saying that people ought to speak English in the US. But I wouldn't assume it's bigoted. It could be trying to reverse the trend on picking on non-trendy groups.
I still stand by the - who the fuck cares what this random person is?
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Second thought: this person is probably straight, white, speaks (only?) english, and is proud to be an american in a way that may or may not make me uncomfortable, depending. Thats, like, everybody I grew up with. they may or may not be an asshole. the part where they're hastening to state the S,W,S(o?)E, P.A. bit makes me lean towards asshole.
Third thought: pride is, like, my worst flaw. so it's one of the things that pisses me off most in other people.
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I hope that is tongue-in-cheek. My small number of silly and nonpolitical bumperstickers are curling up in indignation!
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Of course, now I have one those "minority" badges myself, so I guess it's all better. *rolls eyes*
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Excellent.
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However, I think that, as a person who basically fits those characteristics (straight-ish, white-depending on which generation you ask, English-Speaking, proud of some things and American), a person who would might use a statement like that in satire would realize its other implications and have experience with "Proud American" meaning "Blindly Patriotic and Probably a Bigot" and not want to risk advertising themselves that way.
What was the coloration of the sticker?
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Granted, if I'd seen it on a car where other stickers were obnoxious, or the driver was being a jackass, that opinion would rapidly change.
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i also wonder about the fact that we have historically black universities, all women's colleges, and other such organizations but that we stomp immediately on any majority (or, in the case of sex, males) who try to muster up some cohesion and pride.
anyway, i also am confused by the bumper sticker, as i don't see its purpose, but i don't think it is at all fair to judge it without any further context.
i am also straight, white, english-speaking and american. but i have absolutely no problem with other people being other things.
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This person is looking for a date or is renting out the car to people who are seeking new partners. As the person drives around (male or female) interested parties will pull over and make suggestive gestures at them indicating their interest.
I've leave it up to the student to work out which suggestive gestures they'll get most frequently.
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I intend (when I get a car) to put at least one gay pride sticker on it (though I count myself as mostly straight) and a friend has promised me some mental illness related stickers, such as the wonderful "I have multiple personalities, does that mean I can use the HOV lane?" one. I personally hate religious or race/nationality based stickers, as someone else said "who cares?"
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I personally do not find any of these things things to be proud of. I am proud of my accomplisments and my choices. Being white is not something you can choose or accomplish. Being straight might be, depending on who you ask, and speaking English is something you can choose or accomplish but it is likely for the sticker bearer that English was not a choice but a default. I am proud to speak English as well as I do, but not that I can speak it at all.
Of course, it is possible that the sticker is simply satirizing the other stickers, or satirizing the fact that straight white English-speakers act like they are fast becoming the minority, or satirizing almost anything. And it is also possible that the sticker represents a distaste for people who are not members of these groups, although, I would not assume so.
Upon a third reading it occurs to me that "Proud American" might refer to the fact that many people in our nation don't like America or are not proud to be Americans.
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I'd like to see more people asking themselves "what does it mean to me to be who I am?" and finding ways to be proud of it that don't involve putting down other people. Because I've thought about this in the past, it was my first reaction to the sticker.
But quickly my more pessimistic side says nah, the sticker belongs to someone who thinks that anything else is Wrong, or who at least doesn't understand why anyone who deviates from that formula might want to speak up about it. And I find that sad.
Would I put the corresponding sticker on my car ("Bisexual, White, English-Speaking, Somewhat Ashamed American")? Uh... probably not in those words, but I note that two of the bumper stickers on my car deal with my two deviations from the original slogan, and none of the other bumper stickers deal with any of the other words.
Hmm.
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one, to be an asshole, to show that this is what America IS.
the other, to be ironic, that this is how we act that America is. oh, and i guess one more. to just be proud of who you....having it be seen as "hip" to be anything else than what the sticker states. and to laugh at popculture and say, it is okay to be white, straight, english speaking american. and to be proud of whoever you may be. and to state the pride.
now justso you all know this is coming from someone who is NOT white, wasn't english speaking to begin with, nor neccesarily straight (yet straight identifying). okay, now off to read two pages of comments!
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*cough*
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Like I said, I can be of small mind sometimes.
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o i'm finding myself utterly fascinated by the responses to this...
o that i'm horrified by some of the responses to this...
o thinking "right on" to a few of them...
o that my initial response was "hmm, probably attempt at humor", then "whatever". i think if i saw that while driving, i doubt i'd give it more than a second thought than i would to one of those "my other car is a broom" or such stickers.
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I would say that the owner of the sticker is probably a jerk. He put it on his truck or car because he feels like there is too much whining about the underprivileged. He has never really been a minority or seen the subtle struggles that those who are different go through. He was not born into a world where the odds are against him.
He thinks people in this country should learn English, but probably doesn't speak the language of any other country. He would not leave America to live in another country because he already lives in the greatest country in the world, but he would deny that chance or opportunity to anyone from another country who would come here and have trouble learning to speak the language. It is hard to learn a new language. People who try and still speak with an accent are made fun of. They should NOT be made fun of for trying, and I'll bet this guy does it, which is hypocrtical because hew wants people to learn the language.
If this guy is proud to be an American, that's fine. The other stuff is offensive because it's DEfensive - it is meant to provoke and anger, and it's ignorant and separatist.
He should get a bumper sticker that says, "I will HELP you learn to speak English by being polite to you, because I am a lucky American who was lucky enough to be born here to parents who spoke good English in the greatest country in the world."
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*and therefore I think I should rule the world
at the bottom.
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Just a guess, I do wonder what it means....now I can go ahead and look at the 100 plus other responses to this post.
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