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On the drive to Connecticut this weekend I listened to an episode of This American Life about coincidences. Several stories of coincidences were told, some rally excellent, others nothing special. One idea they explored was that when a coincidence happens to you, you view it more significantly or remember it more than when you hear about a similar coincidence happening to someone else.

It got me thinking of a coincidence that happened to my parents last year.

When I was very little we lived in Jinja, Uganda, where my parents had been living for several years before I was born. My parents divorced here in the US, and my father remarried here.

My stepmother had never been to Africa. Last year, my dad planned a long vacation for the two of them to Uganda and Tanzania, to show her all the places and things from his past. They were going to see wildlife, and nature, and the cities, and visit Jinja and see if our former house was still there.

In the spring my stepmother's mother was diagnosed with cancer, and it was clearly going to be fatal within a year, so my parents cancelled the trip. While she was still here, they weren't going anywhere. As it turned out, the cancer progressed very quickly, and she died three months later, in the summer, during the time that they would've been in Africa.

Her final few days were right on the dates when, if they'd gone to Africa, my parents would've been in Jinja. Spending those days at the hospital with her, they met her nighttime caretaker, who'd become good friends with my stepgrandmother in a short time. A young woman from Jinja, Uganda. She and my dad traded stories, and when he described where we'd lived, she knew the street and recognized the description and told him the house was still there.

[ My parents did go to Africa this winter and did most of what they'd planned for the summer trip. ]

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Tell a story of a coincidence you know of? One that happened to someone else, who told you about it, and you remembered it.
Date: 2013-03-05 17:20 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] 42itous.livejournal.com
In the 70s, my grandparents toured Afghanistan. One of the sights they went to see was the sunrise from a remote mountaintop (I'm sorry I don't remember the geographical details). When they got to the lodge just before dawn, there was one other couple there to watch that day's sunrise: the neighbors from across their street in Brooklyn.

This is the best coincidence that's happened to me:
When I worked in the costume shop at Shakespeare & Co in Lenox, MA, I used to go occasionally to an international folk dancing group that met in Great Barrington. One night there, I talked with a woman who was up from New York for the weekend to see her son. Her son, it turned out, was an actor at Shake&Co. In fact, I had been tailoring a jacket for him that week. As we talked some more, it turned out that the actor's mother had grown up in Providence, where I grew up, and had gone to the same middle and high schools I went to, and her aunt and uncle lived across the street from me when I was growing up. Oh, and when I told my dad this story later, he said, "And she didn't mention that we were at the National Havurah Committee Summer Institute at the same time, years ago?"
Date: 2013-03-05 18:31 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] theloriest.livejournal.com
I was walking down Highland Ave here in Somerville, preparing to cut across to go to the grocery store at Porter, when I spotted several guys about my age or younger (probably mid-20s) moving musical instruments from the house to their car. I saw guitar case, fiddle case, banjo case, and a mandolin case... so naturally I assumed bluegrass. I grew up in a strong bluegrass community back in Alaska, so I started chatting with them. Really got to talking to the banjo player about a dear family friend of mine who had played the banjo and who had passed away the year before. Then we got to talking about the differences between the folk music scene here vs back home. He asks where "back home" and I say, "Oh! Anchorage, Alaska." He and his friends laugh hard, and he points to himself and says, "Fairbanks!" He pauses, and then asks if the family friend I'd been talking about was a guy named Ken Terry. I say yes. He tells me that Ken had taught him how to play the banjo. So he'd flown in from MA to attend Ken's memorial service. I tell him I had also been at that service, and my dad played at it. Ken having been a dear friend, and had played on all four of my dad's albums. He asks who my dad is. "Mike Campbell," I tell him. "NO WAY! Your dad gave me my first guitar lesson!"

Crazy small world.

Oh - Item the 2nd...

During my India trip. I was at a cafe in Udaipur for Diwali, and met an American couple from Colorado. The woman and I take one look at each other and we're both, "I know you!" We couldn't for the life of us figure out how, though. I finally got out of her that she's originally from Rhode Island. And is a burner. And yeah, we had met at several local burner parties here in Boston.
Edited Date: 2013-03-05 18:39 (UTC)
Date: 2013-03-05 18:59 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] yix.livejournal.com
When I first got to Mount Holyoke I felt a bit like a fish out of water with the people in my dorm. One night at dinner I sat with a group of women and had a goofy conversation with someone I had never met before (Jess). Someone had asked Jess where she was from and she said she was from Brooklyn. I exclaimed, "oh! I know someone from Brooklyn! His name is Alvin!" and Jess replied with, "I know Alvin!" We both laughed at the inanity of the whole thing and bonded over confusing the rest of the people at the table. We thought we so funny and I had made a great friend.

9 months later I was in the car with Jess's Dad and he mentioned her friend Alvin and used Alvin's last name....and it was the same Alvin.

I particularly liked the dollar bill coincidence story and thought of you when I heard it this weekend. :)
Date: 2013-03-05 19:09 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ceelove.livejournal.com
Now I'm amused: my father is also Mike Campbell.
Date: 2013-03-05 19:45 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] mzrowan.livejournal.com
Happened to someone else: Last year [livejournal.com profile] tinctoris (current partner) spent a night in Reno after Burning Man. He decided to have a soak in the hotel's hot tub, which was occupied...by my ex from Toronto, [livejournal.com profile] northbard, and his current partner, [livejournal.com profile] tormenta.

Happened to me: I was using the women's bathroom in one of the food courts in the Eaton Centre (giant four-storey, full city-block, two-subway-stops Toronto mall). I was just about to sit down when I heard a voice saying, "Rowan, it's okay! It's okay, Rowan!". I was so startled that I stopped, despite everything being, indeed, okay. I went to sit again, and the voice started up again: "Hang on, Rowan! Mummy will be done in a minute!". So I finished up, then met the woman coming out of the stall next to me with her little baby, Rowan, to share the bizarre experience I'd just had.

On a side note, I think we generally remember things that happen to us better than stories we hear about things that happen to other people; I'm not sure that's special to coincidences. I won't argue the "view more significantly" part, though.
Date: 2013-03-05 20:20 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com
I love coincidences! And that is a really beautiful story.

A good friend of mine recently had this happen to her. She works for a startup in publishing. While she was working out the details of a new acquisition, it came up that the author used to live -- not just in her city -- not just in her neighborhood -- not just on her street -- but in her house.

My own existence is sort of the opposite of a coincidence, maybe. My parents met on a blind date. When I got old enough to be curious about it, I asked each of them individually about how they got set up. It turns out they actually weren't: each of them was supposed to be set up with someone else, but got the wrong person and just shrugged and went with it, figuring they had misremembered their date's name. They didn't figure out what had happened until I told them.
Date: 2013-03-05 20:22 (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] ceo
Years ago, my then-housemate's girlfriend from Seattle was in town to visit both him and her girlfriend, and we were chatting in the kitchen, and it came up that she was a preschool teacher. The previous summer at a UU event, I had made the acquaintance of a preschool teacher from Seattle, so I mentioned her name... and it turned out they were best friends. Next words out of her mouth were "Wait... you're the guy she's been telling me about!"

I was kind of embarrassed, but it turned out OK, because I married her.
Date: 2013-03-05 20:27 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com
Oh, and a couple other coincidences that are small and not wholly mine but still amused me...

Once there was a party in my living room at which three guests were talking about how strange it was that they all shared a birthday, what are the odds of that, blah blah blah. In walks a fourth person, who asks, "Oh? What day?" Turns out that's his birthday too.

Another time some friends were hanging out in my living room talking about coincidences. One of them, a fairly new postdoc in town, says, "There was this girl in my grad program who seemed to know everybody! Everywhere I went, people would be talking about M-- H--!" At which point I got to say, "Oh! I know her too!"
Date: 2013-03-05 20:41 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] eirias.livejournal.com
Another one! This one is more fun and involves some folks you know.

My friend J was on a city bus and on a whim struck up a conversation with the woman next to him. After a pleasant conversation he thought, there is someone I would really like her to meet. Turns out she already had: they were friends in preschool.

And on the preschool theme, my childhood best friend is marrying a guy she thought she first met on JDate.com, but it turns out from photographic evidence that they were also in the same preschool class.

Maybe I remember other people's coincidences more than normal people do; I think I suffer from that flaw of attaching significance to the insignificant. Makes life more fun, though. I'll have to listen to that episode of TAL.
Date: 2013-03-05 20:56 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] yix.livejournal.com
That is a very nifty story about your parents!
Date: 2013-03-05 21:33 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] kimberlogic.livejournal.com
that's one of my favorite stories here :)
Date: 2013-03-05 21:37 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] theloriest.livejournal.com
Heh, I know way too many people with my birthday (6 on Facebook at last count). I was in Puerto Rico for my birthday last year and after getting back from an adventure with some guys from my hostel I walked into my dorm room and a new guy had just arrived. I was all "It's my birthday!" And he glanced up and was, "Hey, mine too!"
Date: 2013-03-05 22:04 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] elfy.livejournal.com
I know you ask for coincidences we remember being told, but I honestly can't come up with any interesting ones right now (just "So and so was in Asia and met someone who knows her sibling or some other friend"), but, indeed I have one to tell I experienced ;) I wrote about it in LJ some years ago, so you might remember it.

I went to a club with friend, to which I hadn't been a year or so. Some years ago I was there every other week, but not anymore. It was a very spontaneous desicion to go there and nearly didn't happen, as my boyfriend who was with us, doesn't like the club. Anyway, we were there and there was a couple exploring the (tiny) club and I thought to myself ... oh, they totally look as if they are new here, but they look like people i could totally get along with. A while passed, while I was talking and dancing and such. Then I saw the girl from the couple again, standing a few meters away from me ... our eyes met ... and I thought ... boy does she look familiar! And then she said: "Ellen?" And I was like ... "Claudia?!" - and there I met my first-to-fourth-grade best friend again.
Special about this: She still lives in the area I grew up at, a few hundred kilometers away, was just on a two day city-trip to the town I live at now and was only in the club because the location they picked out before was actually boring and they decided to go some place else. We hadn't seen each other quite some years and actually only twice or so since we went to separate schools when we were ten.
Date: 2013-03-05 22:32 (UTC)

ceo: (blueshirt)
From: [personal profile] ceo
Happened to someone else (but I almost witnessed it): Some years ago, at a previous employer, we had 2 Russian QA engineers join the company on the same day. At some point they were introduced to each other, and suddenly there's a spate of excited Russian. Turns out they had been childhood best friends in the Soviet Union. One of their families moved to Moscow when they were 12 and later emigrated, and the other one emigrated as an adult sometime after the fall of the Soviet Union, and they were now in their 50s.

They were introduced by first names, and one recognized the other because he looked exactly like his father had when they were children.
Date: 2013-03-06 01:51 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] damiana-swan.livejournal.com
As my friend Inky would say, No shit there I was.

Many many years ago I was freshly divorced with two small children, and thought I'd give writing a try as a way to bring in income and still be able to take care of my daughters.

A friend of mine told me Marion Zimmer Bradley edited and published anthologies of short stories in addition to her novels, and perhaps I should start there. So, I picked up a couple of the anthologies, took them home and read them. One of the stories, about a barefoot princess who did not WANT to be rescued from her dragon, thankyouverymuch! stuck in my head. Knowing what I knew about MZB, I was more than a little surprised to find out the author was male. "Huh," I thought to myself, "I bet he'd be interesting. I wish I could meet him sometime."

(As a note, I did submit a few stories to MZB, and although none of them were accepted, 2 did make it all the way to the final cut. Unfortunately, that wasn't enough to bring any money in, so I quit trying and went back to school.)

Fast forward a whole bunch of years, to when my daughters are about 17 and 19. I had gone to Faerieworlds, as was my habit, and was camping with (several dozen) friends. One particular very popular friend arrived and was instantly swarmed by other people. Once the crowds cleared, and there were only a few of us left standing there, she looked around, did a doubletake, and promptly introduced me to a guy who had also been part of the crowd and who was now standing next to me, someone I'd never seen before, telling us we *really* needed to know each other. She spent the rest of the weekend doing her best to throw us together, quite unnecessarily, as it happened.

Probably a year later, when he and I were exchanging yet more stories of our histories, it came out that *he* was the author of that story, and publishing that story was effectively the start of his career as a writer. (Which went on to include being the line developer for the RPG my daughters had played with now-former housemates.)

We've been together almost 6 years now.

Oh, and? We have a publishing company now, that was accidentally formed when we put together an anthology to raise money for the friend who had introduced us.

As for other peoples' coincidences... my dad had a reputation in our family, because it didn't matter where we went, or how remote it was: there would always be at least one person there who knew him, either from playing with him in an orchestra, or from working with him in the NEA, or through one of the humanitarian projects he sometimes took on... I think it even happened when he and my stepmother went to Germany several years ago.

In his case, at least, it wasn't that we weren't impressed with the coincidences. It was just that it was CONSTANTLY happening!
Date: 2013-03-06 13:04 (UTC)

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From: [personal profile] goljerp
I've been amused reading these stories, and thinking "Nothing like this has ever happened to me", when one of the stories reminded me...

I'm at the wedding of friends of mine from college, in upstate NY. At the reception, I'm mainly hanging out with other college friends (this was not too long after graduation), when an older woman comes up to me and says, "You must be $FirstName $LastName 's son." Well, yes, I am $FirstName $LastName's son, and admitted it. Turns out that she had dated my father back before he and my mother had met... some 30 or so years previously, and I guess I looked like my dad did then.

Date: 2013-03-06 15:42 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] plymouth.livejournal.com
Well just as a counterexample I can't think of a single coincidence from my own life (or anyone I can recall) that's as unlikely as the example you gave in the top post here! I tried to think of stuff to reply 2 or 3 times and said "nah, that's not worth telling - it doesn't even compare". This might say more about my lousy memory than anything else :)
Date: 2013-03-06 15:59 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] plymouth.livejournal.com
Ok, that's funny - my best personal coincidence story involves [livejournal.com profile] tormenta - is that also a coincidence?

Back in... 2006? 2007? Forget the exact year... [livejournal.com profile] auros and I took a flight to Toronto for some friends' wedding that a whole bunch of bay area folks were traveling for. We'd never been to Toronto before and other than the couple whose wedding it is we know I think ONE other person who at the time lived there. We had originally been planning to fly into Buffalo, NY and rent a car and drive up but our flight was canceled and we got another friend whose Buffalo flight wasn't canceled to pick up the rental car and meet us in Toronto. So instead of driving in we took the subway from the airport. I think there were 5 or 6 of us in the group. We exited the subway and were standing there looking slightly lost trying to get our bearings and a stranger asks us if we need directions and are we maybe heading to a sci fi convention that's happening in the city that weekend (yup, we're all geeks, we look the type). Said stranger turns out to be [livejournal.com profile] tormenta, who none of us had ever met before but who is friends with the ONE other person we know in Toronto (and as we find out later some other folks from the bay area).
Date: 2013-03-06 17:02 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] plymouth.livejournal.com
Our theory was that the bay area social networking field had followed us to Toronto since the mutual connections were bay area based... but it could be a Canada thing too!
Date: 2013-03-07 00:53 (UTC)

From: [identity profile] withoutwords.livejournal.com
I just wanted to say that your story made me gasp, literally. Thank you for sharing it!
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